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Originally created by @wehagy on GitHub (Aug 11, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/netbirdio/netbird/issues/4322
Describe the problem
You may lose the configuration files after upgrading to any version later than
0.52.0.To Reproduce
Steps to reproduce the behavior:
0.52.0Expected behavior
Avoid losing configuration files by using a persistent directory.
Are you using NetBird Cloud?
NetBird CloudNetBird version
0.54.0Is any other VPN software installed?
noAdditional context
The version
0.52.0introduced the profiles feature, changing the default configuration directory from/etc/netbirdto/var/lib/netbird. In OpenWrt, this directory is a symbolic link to/tmp, which is a temporary directory. As a result, the configuration is lost after rebooting or flashing new image. As the maintainer of thenetbirdpackage in OpenWrt, I can easily change to another directory using the envNB_STATE_DIR, but I believe not everyone is aware of this option.Have you tried these troubleshooting steps?
@MichaelUray commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
How to you handle it, that the
NB_STATE_DIRenvironment variable gets set before the Netwird service starts during the bootup?You probably could set it in
/etc/init.d/netbird, but that file might get overwritten.@MichaelUray commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
For testing I added the
NB_STATE_DIRvariable to the service in/etc/init.d/netbird:But then I noticed, that the files
resolv.confandstate.jsonalso ended up there and these files change regularily (eg. on each service restart, maybe more often):I think the files
resolv.confandstate.jsonshould stay in/var/lib/netbirdto not wear down the flash.@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
I am not 100% sure how it works, but I have noticed persistence stanza in a Makefile of another NetBird package for OpenWRT
0bcbb3b8a7/netbird/Makefile (L44), this could probably be reused to cover wholeNB_STATE_DIRand/or selected dirs/files.In my opinion: conceptually the move to
/var/lib/netbirdis the right move, because the profile (oldconfig.json) file isn't really a static configuration file, but instead represents the current state and should be treated as such (going into state directories at/var/lib). NixOS was already remapping the location to/var/lib/netbirdbecause of this.@MichaelUray commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
Maybe an option to run Netbird in a single configuration file mode would be a good idea, especially for server and router applications.
i guess the profiles are mainly usefull for user but not for machine applications.
@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
We have somewhat addressed this in
0.53.0by re-adding handling of$NB_CONFIG/--configas a location of the default profile. It will put one in/var/lib/netbird/unless you explicitly tell it to use the/etc/netbird/config.json.PS: @wehagy while we're at the "official" OpenWRT package, could you sync with the functionalities provided by https://github.com/tbc0309/openwrt-netbird/tree/main and maybe join efforts?
The features I'm particularly interested in are:
/etc/sysconfig/netbird(or other equivalent, maybe/etc/default/netbird)@MichaelUray commented on GitHub (Aug 21, 2025):
I also took the packages from tbc0309/openwrt-netbird.
So if I use the
--configoption likenetbird up --management-url https://netbird.example.com:443 --setup-key [KEY] --config /etc/netbird/config.json,would it then still put the file
resolv.confandstate.jsoninto/var/lib/netbird/?Because so far as I understand would it not be required to have these two files persistant and they might change in the operation, so it would be not good to have them on the flash memory in
/etc/netbird/, but in the ram in/var/lib/netbird/.Would it also apply these settings to the service which gets created to have them available after a reboot as well?
@MichaelUray commented on GitHub (Aug 22, 2025):
It worked for me to use the following command to install the Netbird service on OpenWRT:
All the required files were created in the right places,
the configuration in
/etc/netbird/config.json(persistent) andthe other files in
/var/lib/netbirdas well as in/var/log/netbird(volatile):Even the profile file got created, not sure if that gets used with the
NB_CONFIGargument, I assume not:So everything was fine, but after a reboot I did run into the problem, that the service did not start, since the directory
/var/log/netbirddid not exist.I added
[ -d /var/log/netbird ] || mkdir -p /var/log/netbirdto/etc/init.d/netbirdto create the required directory when the services gets started,but after a reboot the service was still not running and the directory still did not exist.
A manual start of the service created then the directory as expected.
I guess it gets started to early in the boot process when
/varis not available.As workaround I did add that to
/etc/rc.localto restart the service at the end of the boot process.To check what happened I removed all the directories and re-installed everything:
It looks the directory
/var/log/netbirdgets only created when the service gets installed:/var/lib/netbirdgets created on each start of the Netbird process and I think the same should happen for/var/log/netbird.@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Aug 22, 2025):
No, only the
config.jsonwould be placed in/etc/netbird, the/var/lib/netbird/does not hold any permanent state until you decide to add non-default profile.@wehagy commented on GitHub (Aug 24, 2025):
@MichaelUray, The file will only change if you installed via the package manager or flash a new OpenWrt image (expected behavior). Other modification methods are not supported (I'm a downstream maintainer, upstream is another story.).
Yep, I plan to modify
/etc/init.d/netbird:This will follow the NetBird documentation, where state can be stored in
/var/lib/netbirdor in${HOME}/.config/netbird.Or maybe I'll go this route: I'll probably keep the old behavior in OpenWrt 24.10, but add the new behavior for OpenWrt master.
This is a good observation, but from what I see,
state.jsonandresolv.confonly change in specific cases or when the service restarts. Normallynetbirdis fire-and-forget, and these two files might be important to persist.I don't think this will be a problem, besides,
netbirdalready backs up the originalresolv.confto/etc/resolv.conf.original.netbird.Also, note that my
netbirddoesn't saveresolv.conf, I don't wantnetbirdmanaging that file. It's managed bydnsmasq, which I point tonetbird. To stopnetbirdmanagingresolv.conf, change"DisableDNS": falsetotruein your profile/config. The name is confusing, but this only disables DNS management, thenetbirdDNS server will still run.Here (more or less, it's outdated, I need to write a wiki about it) you can see how I configure DNS: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/using-netbird-with-dnsmasq/218358/3?u=wehagy
I think the same, but at the same time I don't want to diverge from upstream or lock users into a single config file without reason.
@nazarewk, this is how I'm handling it, you can see my commit here
fa2974f664. However, the Makefile you sent is broken, maybe not immediately, but it will fail as-is. For example, if you log in with the setup key and restart, the profile will be lost because it's saved under/var/...(a non‑persistent directory), and users are likely to be confused as to why.I don't know how NixOS handles
/var, is it a persistent directory?I ways treated the
config|default.jsonas a config file, this file never has been changed by thenetbird, just myself changed the file manually, but to be fair this file doesn't appear to be changed by hand...This is a good idea, joining efforts is always better than working solo. However, I think the effort should go the other way, I need to follow OpenWrt rules to get a PR accepted. And even if something happens to me, OpenWrt will continue and others can carry on the work. I'm contributing to OpenWrt because
netbirdwill likely get more visibility there(maybe?) than in a third‑party repo, and adding third‑party repos may be difficult for new users.I'm happy to review and help anyone trying to get their PR accepted.
I've thought about this before, the OpenWrt way to handle configuration is using UCI, and I always thought the difference between
netbird service runandnetbird upmade this less useful. In reality this is a big pain,netbird upis much more powerful. Some people shared their/etc/init.d/netbirdwith me and are changingconfig|default.jsonusingsed, but that doesn't seem like the right approach.Can you tell me more about the environments you're using or interested in?
This is tricky for several reasons. As I mentioned above, I must follow OpenWrt rules, one of them is that I build and test the package myself. NetBird moves fast, and sometimes there are multiple releases in a single day, which is one reason I delay new versions. Bugs can be introduced between releases, so I often wait longer before opening a PR. PR review is a manual, best‑effort community process, which adds more waiting time. Commits must land in the master branch first and then be backported to OpenWrt stable. I don't use OpenWrt stable myself, so I only backport there occasionally, I tried to find someone to test the backports, but everyone disappeared into the shadows.
netbirdwill not be updated for OpenWrt 23.05 because the latestnetbirdrequires Golang 1.23+, while OpenWrt 23.05 Golang is stuck at 1.21.x, the maintainer won't backport newer Golang versions to stable. The same will eventually affect OpenWrt 24.10, ifnetbirdrequires Golang 1.24+, OpenWrt 24.10 Golang will remain at 1.23.x.I really appreciate all your feedback and efforts.
@wehagy commented on GitHub (Sep 10, 2025):
I have already decided how I'm going to handle this in the downstream repo, anyone interested can see the PR below: