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[bug][client] incorrect error for DNS in netbird status debug output #1800
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opened 2025-11-20 06:07:02 -05:00 by saavagebueno
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Originally created by @fboender on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025).
Describe the problem
netbird status -dshows an error for nameservers, even though everything is working fine. This is confusing when trying to debug issues with DNS.However, resolving directly against the peer on which the DNS runs works fine.
The
vpn-test.flusso.nldomain is non-public, and only configured in the self-hosted DNS server. So everything is working fine:When I restart netbird on the "client", it sometimes shows a different error message:
But once again, everything is just fine:
To Reproduce
Not sure how to reproduce, but I've got the following setup (using Netbird Cloud):
I've got two peers. One, which I will call the "server" has a local DNS server configured. It's listening on the internal
wt0interface:Access policy is default (allow all traffic).
I've got the "server" peer (
100.97.168.236) setup in the Netbird web interface under DNS -> Nameservers, with the distribution group set to "All". Under "DNS Settings" I've disabled DNS management for this peer.The other peer is a "client", nothing special. This is the peer showing the issue.
Expected behavior
I expect the output of
netbird status -dto show that everything is working with DNS, since it's obviously is. I was diagnosing some DNS problems earlier, and this error really set me in the wrong direction.Are you using NetBird Cloud?
Using Netbird Cloud
NetBird version
Is any other VPN software installed?
Yes, OpenVPN. But for the purpose of testing, I've stopped all openvpn processes.
Debug output
I can provide debug output / logging if required, please let me know.
Additional context
I strongly suspect this is happening because I'm using another peer's internal IP as a DNS server, and Netbird on start-up tries to probe the DNS before the communication between the peers is fully established.
Have you tried these troubleshooting steps?
@fboender commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
Here's a portion of the Netbird
client.logright after restarting netbird:@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
The Nameservers are usually checked for the first time before the Peer connectivity is established and fail immediately, then the handler checks the connectivity only periodically. It can take anywhere from a few seconds to up to half a minute to be retried and properly register with the operating system.
Could it explain the behaviour you are observing?
@fboender commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
I checked the status every minute for 10 minutes, but it didn't change, even though I could resolve against the DNS server all that time:
It's about half an hour later now, and still not okay:
And just to prove that eveything is working properly and there's no connectivity issues between the peers:
@fboender commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
btw, I consider this a low priority issue. Everything's working just fine, and as long as it is, you'd probably never even see the debug output ever.
@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
I'm starting to wonder if it might have something to do with using Netbird IP address as a Nameserver.
Looks like a curious case, I will ask the team what the error could be about, because it isn't the usual
i/o timeout@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
The team noted that
required key not availabletype of error usually means the ip address is not handled by any active wireguard peer.Are you sure you are using the correct IP address, the peer is online, and the connection to it is established? It probably works on the rest of the system because NetBird client will deregister the failing nameserver from the operating system and not use it at all.
Would you be willing to share following with us? (you can mail to support at netbird io or send me directly to kdn on Slack if you don't want it available publicly)
@fboender commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
Thanks for your quick response!
I forgot to mention that I'm also running a Tinc VPN. For all of the following tests, I've turned it off.
The error message keeps changing everytime I restart netbird between:
And
I assume because, like you said, when probing the DNS peer at startup, it's not yet properly connected at the wireguard level, so it sets an error message, which never gets cleared. Depending on timing, the error can be i/o timeout or key not available.
Connectivity to the DNS peer is definitely working. Here are the DNS settings from the web interface:
In the
netbird status -doutput it's status is "Connected":I can reach that peer just fine:
I can also resolve DNS queries against it directly:
The
SERVER: 100.97.168.236#53(100.97.168.236) (UDP)portion there shows it's resolving against the peer.The
vpn-test.flusso.nldomainname is only registered in dnsmasq running on the peer I'm using as DNS. Anywhere else, the domain doesn't exist. If I stop Netbird, the domain can no longer be resolved:So everything points to my system using the DNS on the peer just fine, despite the error message in debug status output.
The Netbird debug bundle will have to wait until tomorrow.
Routing table:
Resolvectl status:
I would have expected the DNS settings for
wt0to be100.97.168.236, but instead it's the local peer address. Not sure if that's normal. It'ssystemd-resolvedthat's listening there, which I guess is normal:If you require any other information, please let me know. I'll see if I can install the debug bundle tomorrow.
Thank you for your time!
@nazarewk commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
Actually it is an address of the local NetBird resolver: a client's IP for linux or the highest free IP address in the
100.XXX.0.0/16network (*.255.254) for other systems.@fboender commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2025):
Missed that one, but I agree. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I agree with your earlier assessment:
It feels a lot like the handler correctly test / reestablishes connectivity, and all the DNS settings are configured just fine, but the debug status just isn't updated properly. But again, don't want to jump to conclusions. :-)
@fboender commented on GitHub (Apr 10, 2025):
If I change the DNS IP in DNS -> Nameservers in the web interface to
1.1.1.1, the error message on the peer almost immediately disappears:Switch it back in the interface to the peer address and the error reappears:
But it's definitely working:
@ZnqbuZ commented on GitHub (May 31, 2025):
Same problem here. Before, I could wait a minute and the DNS would be back online, but this doesn't work anymore after a recent update. It should be a rather common practice to let a peer serve internal DNS, otherwise I can't imagine why people need split-horizon DNS. It's a pity that NetBird doesn't give any special treatment for this. At least it should detect DNS server availability much more actively (or just let user decide how long that period should be).