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Originally created by @ez1976 on GitHub (Mar 21, 2024).
Hi.
after comparing tailscale , headscale and other zero-trust solutions, i really like NetBird (self hosted)
but since it is a zero-trust solution, the Posture checks needs to be enhances.
for example:
limit peers per user - since we use okta SSO, there is no way to limit the amount of peers that a user can connect from resulting in a possibility that the user will just connect from the virus-infected computer at home.
Software check - our company's laptop have jumpcloud agent installed. it would be great if we can check if the jumpcloud agent is installed and updated
OS and Antivirus Updates - limit connection unless the OS is updated and the Antivirus/EDR agent is updated.
of course, if any of the posture checks fails, it should display a pop-up / cli notification explaining why he cant connect to minimize IT tickets.
@braginini commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2024):
Hey @ez1976
Thank you for the feedback! Your points totally make sense:
We have it in a roadmap. You can enable the peer approval setting. It will force manual admin approvals to make sure the right ones are joining.
We are developing a process check that can be used to check whether a process runs on a machine. This is a simple version of a complete Jumpcloud integration that we will eventually support.
OS is already possible, check the Access Control -> Posture Checks -> Add Posture Check -> Operating System.
You can specify OS versions. For Linux and Windows you can force a specific kernel version.
https://netbird.io/knowledge-hub/open-source-zero-trust-networking
As for antivirus and EDr, we are currently working on Crowdstrike support. What do you have in mind here?
Makes sense!
P.S. Are you trying self-hosted or cloud NetBird?
@ez1976 commented on GitHub (Mar 21, 2024):
I have the self hosted server installed and deployed.
So far i love it
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 17:26 Misha Bragin @.***> wrote:
@jzadir commented on GitHub (Jun 8, 2024):
Thank you for the awesome work!
I am on the same boat! Peer approval would be really useful in self-hosted deploys, but any form of limit to the number and type of peer a user can add will do the trick.
@ez1976 commented on GitHub (Jun 8, 2024):
Thank you for your reply
Since peer approval is only for cloud host , i have found a workaround:
Since users are added per okta group, they can login with any machine
but since the API now allows me to get the serial number of the computer, i
run a script every 10 minutes that exports a list of netbird peers, netbird
users and via api, a list of computers on jumpcloud.
Then i compare each connected netbird client serial number to the expected
computer in jumpcloud.
At first we just notified the users and IT
now we actually block the rouge peer in netbird (i put them in a group
that has no access to anywhere) and notify the user, IT and his manager.
I think it would be wise to integrate with other MDM To get the serial
/antivirus / EDR or anything else that the admin wants to check against.
It would be a lot easier for you guys to integrate a general MDM check via
api (give the user the option to enter the api of the MDM and he should
provide the filters and value mapping).
That way you get fully integrated with a lot of MDMs and we get control
which peers can log in with what (probably exception of IT or CEO that
wants to connect from other devices).
Let me know if you want me to show you the script i made.
Thanks
On Sun, Jun 9, 2024, 00:37 José Zadir Ferreira Neto <
@.***> wrote:
@HiImVINK commented on GitHub (Apr 18, 2025):
you should add ways to check for registry keys. or event logs. or process status (in more detail)
We would love to have a sentinelone integration or the ability to implement an API to do this. Like Cloudflare has device posture checks for example
@litobro commented on GitHub (May 26, 2025):
I agree, Intune and other MDM integration to check if the device is joined or otherwise compliant would be nice as well.
@ez1976 commented on GitHub (May 27, 2025):
Well i have created custom tasks that not only check if the computer's
serial number is in the mdm, but if the computer name is the same and more
important, if it had been connected to the mdm in the past 3-7 days.
I had issues were the mdm was installed but the user decided to disable the
service so the serial and computer name were correct but the mdm was not
running.
Had even a user installed a fake windows service with the same service name
as the mdm.
So now if the laptip hasnt been online on the mdm in the last few days, it
logs and remove all netbird groups so it has only "all" (which doesnt lead
to anywhere).
But at the same 5 minute checks, if the laptops with no groups has returned
to the mdm, i then delete the user from the netbird management, which
disconnect him and force him to relogin (which sets the user, computer and
groups from the idp).
Also removal and restore of the permission is notified via slack to the
user and IT
On Tue, May 27, 2025, 02:32 Thomas Dang @.***> wrote:
@litobro commented on GitHub (May 27, 2025):
I'd argue that if you're granting local administrator to users, we're talking about completely different classes of problem/feature request here.
For a centrally managed corporate ZTNA/VPN alternative, I think a good start is being able to posture devices based on compliance policies polled/retrieved from MDM, and checking whether a device is enrolled in MDM.
That should cover the majority of use cases for enterprise scale deployments.
@ez1976 commented on GitHub (May 27, 2025):
yes i agree.
but users will be users - they will always find a way to work harder in
order to work less.
i had a user that installed the same MDM on his home computer just so the
process of the MDM will be found by netbird.
On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 8:14 AM Thomas Dang @.***>
wrote:
@webalexeu commented on GitHub (Jun 5, 2025):
Are you planning also in the roadmap to check that the process defined in the posture check is the legitimate one?
Like that the executable running has been signed by a specific certificate authority?
Or check the executable hash?
Thanks